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From a design educator on SB 1312, NCIDQ and her students

[be sure to read the COMMENTS to this post]

A design educator wrote to me the following:

“Brent,

The problem is with WORK EXPERIENCE (not the two, three or four years education). As of Jan. 1, ‘08 WORK EXPERIENCE has to be under a “registered”, “licensed” interior designer, or an “NCIDQ certificate holder” or an “architect who practices interior design”.

All our students who are graduating this year (and beyond) WILL HAVE TO find their work experience with one of the above.

In our present ‘down’ economy – - which is predicted by experts to be down for at least 18-24 months, hiring is slow at best, and many firms, I am told, are eliminating jobs altogether.

SO NOW, under SB 1312, our students who have spent many years and small fortunes studying interior design, will have to take the NCIDQ that doesn’t test them on Title 24 and so they will have to learn that which doesn’t even apply to them in California, that is, IF THEY ARE ELIGIBLE to take the exam, when the ONLY WORK EXPERIENCE they can obtain before applying HAS TO BE UNDER one of the above-listed professionals.

This legislation really burns me up. It is so unfair to our students . I do believe that many of our graduates will have a VERY DIFFICULT TIME getting the so-called “right kind” of experience that it will take them many years before they will be able to become “Registered” under SB 1312.

I fear that some of our graduating students who are not able to get jobs will start working for themselves and they will unknowingly violate the RID law and face government fines. And even if they did work for themselves or found good work with some talented and experienced designers, NONE OF IT WOULD COUNT towards their NCIDQ exam.”

May 25, 2008 - Posted by brentwilliams | Stupid Legislation | , | 4 Comments

4 Comments »

  1. THIS TURF WAR CR*P IS ALL ABOUT PECKING ORDERS, A SYSTEM OF organized professionals where one pecks another who is of lower rank; but the ’so-called lower’ professional doesn’t like that, and says, WE’RE EQUAL. And the ONLY way to prove we’re equal is to have a state license like the architects.

    Hey everyone, just do your jobs and stop trying so hard. You’ll live longer. Fighting with each other over social stratification and dominance hierarchy is a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY, something that NO ONE CAN AFFORD to throw away.

    WHO CARES WHO is the top professional? There is plenty of work for all. No one is going to starve here. And despite what ASID says, the public has not been so significantly harmed by any interior designer so as to DEMAND designers be licensed by the state (as though that, in an of itself, is some kind of “badge” of excellence. LOL. What a bunch of fools to actually WANT to submit yourself to state rules and regulations….. geezis, ENJOY YOUR FREEDOM! And stop all this nonsense.

    If not, you’re no better than a bunch of chickens in the middle, who peck on certain chickens but are, in turn, pecked on by other chickens higher up on the scale.

    Comment by RID - Retired Interior Designer | May 26, 2008 | Reply

  2. How about all the previous information is wrong. The bill actually does NOT use the NCIDQ standards, but allows the states to set them. Specifically no CIDA school requirements, no fixed internship – just work experience.

    Comment by Bruce Goff | May 26, 2008 | Reply

  3. Whoa, there Bruce. I approved your comment just so I could answer it. If SB 1312 is codifying the NCIDQ, then the NCIDQ becomes the gatekeeper of who can do what. Once you codify THE PRIVATE NCIDQ into California law, NCIDQ can and will do whatever it pleases, and it won’t be regulated by anyone, not even the state. See my previous post about how the NCIDQ keeps moving the goal post. They’ve done it before, they’re doing it now, and they will continue to do it. If your SB 1312 is calling for the NCIDQ, then students WILL have to work under a “registered”, “licensed” interior designer, or an “NCIDQ certificate holder” or an “architect who practices interior design”. YOU CAN READ IT ON THE NCIDQ WEB SITE .

    Comment by brentwilliams | May 26, 2008 | Reply

  4. Comment directed to Bruce Goff’s comment May 26….Bruce, read the bill. You are incorrect again! It clearly says that the NCIDQ will be the only testing standard. If the individual states could “tell NCIDQ” what to do, then why have a National standard? Also, why do we have a committee of 7 people make any and all decisions related to testing, qualifications and liabilities. BAD BILL!

    Comment by Diane Kremer ASID PRofessional | May 27, 2008 | Reply


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