Comments on: From a design educator on SB 1312, NCIDQ and her students http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/correction-about-students-ncidq-under-sb-1312/ Putting it out there Mon, 13 Apr 2009 16:54:09 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: Diane Kremer ASID PRofessional http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/correction-about-students-ncidq-under-sb-1312/#comment-65 Diane Kremer ASID PRofessional Tue, 27 May 2008 19:04:32 +0000 http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/?p=39#comment-65 Comment directed to Bruce Goff's comment May 26....Bruce, read the bill. You are incorrect again! It clearly says that the NCIDQ will be the only testing standard. If the individual states could "tell NCIDQ" what to do, then why have a National standard? Also, why do we have a committee of 7 people make any and all decisions related to testing, qualifications and liabilities. BAD BILL! Comment directed to Bruce Goff’s comment May 26….Bruce, read the bill. You are incorrect again! It clearly says that the NCIDQ will be the only testing standard. If the individual states could “tell NCIDQ” what to do, then why have a National standard? Also, why do we have a committee of 7 people make any and all decisions related to testing, qualifications and liabilities. BAD BILL!

]]> By: brentwilliams http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/correction-about-students-ncidq-under-sb-1312/#comment-61 brentwilliams Tue, 27 May 2008 00:04:44 +0000 http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/?p=39#comment-61 Whoa, there Bruce. I approved your comment just so I could answer it. If SB 1312 is codifying the NCIDQ, then the NCIDQ becomes the gatekeeper of who can do what. Once you codify THE PRIVATE NCIDQ into California law, NCIDQ can and will do whatever it pleases, and it won't be regulated by anyone, not even the state. See my previous post about how the NCIDQ keeps moving the goal post. They've done it before, they're doing it now, and they will continue to do it. If your SB 1312 is calling for the NCIDQ, then students WILL have to work under a “registered”, “licensed” interior designer, or an “NCIDQ certificate holder” or an “architect who practices interior design”. YOU CAN READ IT ON THE NCIDQ WEB SITE . Whoa, there Bruce. I approved your comment just so I could answer it. If SB 1312 is codifying the NCIDQ, then the NCIDQ becomes the gatekeeper of who can do what. Once you codify THE PRIVATE NCIDQ into California law, NCIDQ can and will do whatever it pleases, and it won’t be regulated by anyone, not even the state. See my previous post about how the NCIDQ keeps moving the goal post. They’ve done it before, they’re doing it now, and they will continue to do it. If your SB 1312 is calling for the NCIDQ, then students WILL have to work under a “registered”, “licensed” interior designer, or an “NCIDQ certificate holder” or an “architect who practices interior design”. YOU CAN READ IT ON THE NCIDQ WEB SITE .

]]> By: Bruce Goff http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/correction-about-students-ncidq-under-sb-1312/#comment-60 Bruce Goff Mon, 26 May 2008 22:01:40 +0000 http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/?p=39#comment-60 How about all the previous information is wrong. The bill actually does NOT use the NCIDQ standards, but allows the states to set them. Specifically no CIDA school requirements, no fixed internship - just work experience. How about all the previous information is wrong. The bill actually does NOT use the NCIDQ standards, but allows the states to set them. Specifically no CIDA school requirements, no fixed internship – just work experience.

]]> By: RID - Retired Interior Designer http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/2008/05/25/correction-about-students-ncidq-under-sb-1312/#comment-58 RID - Retired Interior Designer Mon, 26 May 2008 19:06:51 +0000 http://brentwilliams.wordpress.com/?p=39#comment-58 THIS TURF WAR CR*P IS ALL ABOUT PECKING ORDERS, A SYSTEM OF organized professionals where one pecks another who is of lower rank; but the 'so-called lower' professional doesn't like that, and says, WE'RE EQUAL. And the ONLY way to prove we're equal is to have a state license like the architects. Hey everyone, just do your jobs and stop trying so hard. You'll live longer. Fighting with each other over social stratification and dominance hierarchy is a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY, something that NO ONE CAN AFFORD to throw away. WHO CARES WHO is the top professional? There is plenty of work for all. No one is going to starve here. And despite what ASID says, the public has not been so significantly harmed by any interior designer so as to DEMAND designers be licensed by the state (as though that, in an of itself, is some kind of "badge" of excellence. LOL. What a bunch of fools to actually WANT to submit yourself to state rules and regulations..... geezis, ENJOY YOUR FREEDOM! And stop all this nonsense. If not, you're no better than a bunch of chickens in the middle, who peck on certain chickens but are, in turn, pecked on by other chickens higher up on the scale. THIS TURF WAR CR*P IS ALL ABOUT PECKING ORDERS, A SYSTEM OF organized professionals where one pecks another who is of lower rank; but the ’so-called lower’ professional doesn’t like that, and says, WE’RE EQUAL. And the ONLY way to prove we’re equal is to have a state license like the architects.

Hey everyone, just do your jobs and stop trying so hard. You’ll live longer. Fighting with each other over social stratification and dominance hierarchy is a WASTE OF TIME AND MONEY, something that NO ONE CAN AFFORD to throw away.

WHO CARES WHO is the top professional? There is plenty of work for all. No one is going to starve here. And despite what ASID says, the public has not been so significantly harmed by any interior designer so as to DEMAND designers be licensed by the state (as though that, in an of itself, is some kind of “badge” of excellence. LOL. What a bunch of fools to actually WANT to submit yourself to state rules and regulations….. geezis, ENJOY YOUR FREEDOM! And stop all this nonsense.

If not, you’re no better than a bunch of chickens in the middle, who peck on certain chickens but are, in turn, pecked on by other chickens higher up on the scale.

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